I know what you're thinking. "Rappoccio's gone new age on us?!?!!?"
No, I'm talking about George R. R. Martin's Song of Ice and Fire  (I've never devoured five huge books with quite this rapidity before,  he gives Tolkein a run for his money!) Now, for those of you that don't  follow it, you may be a little lost but I'll try to fill you in. For  those that haven't finished the latest tome yet, I won't spoil (much).
What I do want  to focus on, however, is the religious aspects of the land of Westeros.  I'll fill you in on the history so that you get the idea of where I'm  coming from. I have a point, don't worry!
(None of this is in any way sanctioned, so caveat emptor, but for a huge wiki base, see here).
The Old Gods
"Long  ago" (thousands of years) the land of Westeros was populated by a  diminutive hominid species known to themselves as "those who sing the  songs of the earth", later dubbed "children of the forest" by humans.  They were a druidic people who had the ability to actually possess  animals, plants, and even other humans. There are many with the talent  of possessing animals ("wargs" or "skinchangers"), but very very few  that have the talent of possessing plants ("greenseers").
There  are trees all over the land of Westeros, one in particular called  weirwoods. They have white bark and red sap. Typically "those who sing  the songs of earth" carved faces in them, in which case they would  become a "heart tree". These are apparently favorites of the greenseers,  since the trees are very old.
When a greenseer possesses a tree,  it sees things in terms of how the tree does. "Future", "past" and  "present" are essentially irrelevant for a tree, so the greenseer sees  future, past, and present at once.
The short of it is: The  "singers" essentially worshiped the greenseers, and in particular  revered these weirwood heart trees because their greenseers ("gods")  could communicate through them.
When humans came to Westeros (the  "First Men"), the same thing happened as always happens when an  expansionist civilization expands into a more sedentary civilization  that is not very warlike. Death, dismemberment, war, etc. However  eventually they settled down and worked out a truce with the "singers".
In the "current day" (per the Song of Ice and Fire saga), the "Old Gods" are still worshiped in the North.
The Seven
The  Seven are the figureheads of the faith of another race of men, the  Andals that came and conquered the "First Men", moving from the south to  the north. The seven are fairly close to what you'd think of as  Christian ways of doing things: churches, lore, mythology, canon,  priests, priestesses, organization, an attempt at a moral codification,  etc. The Seven are the Warrior, the Maiden, the Father, the Mother, the  Crone, the Smith, and the Stranger. Each embodies one of seven aspects  of a single deity (sound familiar?)
The Andals came and again  raped, pillaged, plundered their way through Westeros on their own, and  this time it was against the First Men. They were halted at some point  (I don't really know, and it isn't really relevant) by one of the Kings  of the North, who still worshiped the Old Gods. Eventually the South  became predominately worshipful of the Seven, while the North remained  faithful to the Old Gods.
R'hllor
Enter  R'hllor, whom several prominent characters worship in the current  timeline. It is a foreign religion from Essos that worships a fire  deity, whose enemy is "The Other". Somehow there are physical  manifestations of this religion that are linked to the existence of  dragons (which play a central role in the stories).
Pure Speculation
At  this point, I now venture to pure speculation because the stories are  not yet complete so I cannot know the outcome, obviously. However, to  me, it seems that ultimately GRRM seems to be gearing up for some huge  theological showdown where the worshipers of the Old Gods, the Seven,  and R'hllor all pick their "favorites" to rule Westeros, and the  religions and forces battle through blood and bitter strife. In the  words of Tom Waits, "This couldn't end any other way!"
This all sounds a lot like good ol' earth, third rock from the sun, pale blue dot, etc. But what is different here?
Evidence.  Two of the three religions above, in the stories, have completely  observable, specific things that are done that point out the existence  of powers beyond human understanding. Priests of R'hllor can raise the  dead, the greenseers really can see into the past and the future and  other consequences, and more importantly, current human beings in the  story can hope to accomplish these things. Which brings me to the second  point.
Progression. The religions of Westeros actually do  progress in "modern times". The greenseers still exist, they really were  people who simply learned how to commune with plants. Priests of  R'hllor still are made, and raise the dead with weird rituals. You can  see specifically the evidence of your particular religion directly  before your eyes in a completely impossible to ignore way (like, someone  who was dead for three days and laying in a river is brought back to  live, albeit a little... ummm... soggy and decayed. Yum).
And  yet, some things are the same in Westeros. The worship of the Seven is a  fairly thinly veiled Christianity, the same kind of medieval piousness  of the simple friar mingling with bare greed and avarice of the high  priests, but yet the worship of the Seven is the least believable of all  of the rest. There are no observables in the religion of the Seven, no  one brought back to life, no futures foretold, no pasts observed, just  the same old Gothic-style religion of hallowed halls of silence and a  band of initiates leading flocks.
Which brings me to the upcoming  conflicts. It's not clear to me if any of these will win, but it is  pretty clear that sides will be chosen, lines will be drawn, axes will  be sharpened, knives and pitchforks will be brandished, etc. The  remaining parallels to our own society are plain, so I won't address  them.
But what I do want to address is the simple fact that in  Westeros, I probably wouldn't be an atheist, whereas on Earth, I am. At  the very least, I would be firmly aware that there is much about the  universe that was well beyond my capacity for understanding. You can  claim that the druidic religion of the Old Gods is not in any way  evidence of a deity in "our" sense here on earth, but at the very least  there is "something else" out there, a spirit, a consciousness  post-mortem, etc. You can also claim that the aspects of R'hllor-worship  are not evidence of a deity in "our" sense here on earth either, and  could say that even if it were, knowing this being's mind would be near  impossible. But at the very least, you'd be aware that "something else"  is out there.
Westeros still has its fair share of atheists,  however (notable ones, even). It seems more accepted there than it was  in medieval earth. They place no particular stock in the wishes of the  gods of any sort, and play the same games of survival that we all do on a  daily basis.
I think that in Westeros I'd still be somewhat  skeptical of whose god is the right one, and what the mind of each god  was, and whether or not the god existed at all, but I would have a firm  belief in "something else" that is beyond the corporeal existence, that  our "selves" would not simply be electric pulses running throughout our  skulls, that some other sense of "self" pervades our body.
People  often blame atheists for their atheism, as if they simply don't want to  believe in god X,Y, or Z, or that nothing would convince them. I can  easily point out that this is simply not the case. It's not particularly  difficult to conceive of a world in which atheism (or perhaps  naturalism, if you prefer) would be hard to justify scientifically  because of the heaps of evidence against it.
In our world,  however, the opposite is the case. There are heaps of evidence against  the existence of any "something else", little to no repeatable or  observable evidence in favor of this "something else", alternative  explanations for basically everything you can come up with that are  equally or more plausible than religious ones.
I can simply say  that it's not impossible to have evidence for "faith" (or "religion", if  you prefer). It just so happens that I don't see any in existence on  our planet. So, I remain an atheist. It is simply the most parsimonious  explanation for the current state that our world is in.
The real  question the rest of you must ask is why we seem as close to the brink  of a huge war of religions as a mythical realm where magical things  actually do happen in evidence  of these religions. Maybe the Westerosi should be used as an example. At  the very least, it's a great read! Highly recommended.
Enjoy!
3 comments:
Physicists do look for weird things in weird places. What is amazing is that they find 'em!
Comments and Picked Nits:
I'd also say that R'hllor has elements of Christianity too. It is monotheistic, believes that other deities are actually demons or manifestations of of the "god of ice," and believes in the coming of a savior.
There is also the religion of the Many Faced God, which is essentially a death cult.
Also the Drowned God, the rather interesting and weird religion that I'm not sure has a real-life analogue. It's worshiped by a group of island dwellers and pirateers. Sea Water is their Holy Water. The ideal burial is at sea. Acolytes of the religion are drowned and then ressuscitated.
I'm not sure I'd be a theist in this world, even assuming I had first hand accounts of some of the rather supernatural events.
First, as a reader, we have information we wouldn't have if we were a character. It seems that only the wargs and greenseers really understand their powers. Among common folk such powers have been confused as actual shapeshifting. Only North of the wall, where wargs aren't ostracized do they really understand and accept the ability.
R'hllor is actually foreign to Westeros, and originates in Essos, across the Narrow sea.
But I'm not sure if I would believe that said gods exist in light of witnessing said supernatural events, or I would simply accept that the mechanics of the world allow for such things to happen.
Here's a question, as a reader of the books, do you believe that any of the gods exist as characters (as yet unrevealed) within the story? I don't. I certainly believe there are supernatural powers at work, but whether that's simply a non-personal, unintelligent type of magic at play I can't say, but I'm not yet ready to accept that any one of the gods worshiped exist as characters as described.
Hi, Democurus,
Thanks for the comment, I do agree (and I was literally driving to work this morning and said, "Oh, shit! I forgot about the Drowned God and the Damphair, and the Braavosi Many-Faced God!", but you get the picture).
You're absolutely right that there's not necessarily any evidence for a personal deity in the stories either, just a different sort of "physics" that involves a soul. That's what I mean by "something else", it doesn't have to be a cognizant entity, but could possibly be simply the medium which houses the "soul" of these people (which can undeniably move from one physical body to another). The interpretation of that "something else" by the characters can possibly be dead wrong.
I think the separation of the deities is by religion, though. There's clearly evidence for the greenseers (or, rather, we omniscient readers have the evidence) and they clearly exist, but that's basically ancestor worship in any case. The others (the Seven, R'hllor, Drowned, Many-Faces) have no evidence as to whether or not they really exist (even in the story).
There are certainly Westerosi who don't have our "omniscient" point of view, and I would say that your average baker in Flea Bottom has as much evidence for a deity as your average baker in Manhattan. But okay, for the sake of argument let's just set that aside since it's not exactly germane to my point that in Westeros, there IS evidence of something outside of the corporeal, whereas on earth, there isn't. That's more or less the point. ;)
Thanks for the comments! I enjoyed them!
"Winter is coming"! Best get your boots. ;)
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